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resolved Cinemasins Critical Research Failure Web Original
On the Cinemasins Critical Research Failure Page, one of the examples is the narrator not knowing that the Smiley Face on Mars depicted in Watchmen is real. Is this considered common enough knowledge to count as a Critical research Failure?
resolved TV Shows on DVD Web Original
Website.TV Shows On DVD needs a head-to-toe update, in the wake of these news. (Not to mention, the YMMV page consists of nothing but a Trivia Trope...)
Edited by dsneybufresolved Troper Works Question Web Original
So I just remembered of the index page, Troper Works, which is for entries that tropers made themselves or were involved in. The stories that I am working on would go in there obviously, but my question stems from this. I had a very small involvement in TOME (the remake). I'm the green ninja pirate player in the first episode of season 2. Since it is only one speaking moment and nothing else, does it still count?
Edited by Zerukinresolved Serious Business in SCP Foundation Web Original
Yesterday, Doctor Nemesis added following as example of Serious Business.
I removed as being too generic. They add modified version today
And claims that it's no worse than the first entry.
Should it be removed again, and if so, should the first one removed as well?
Note that its entry in SeriousBusiness.Web Original has none of that. It has only one In-Universe example (there were two, but I've just removed the first one).
resolved Edit War ...Death Battle again Web Original
In Jul 23rd 2019, qwigly added this to DeathBattle.Tropes A To C as an example of Bloodless Carnage.
- In the span of Weiss Vs Mitsuru, Mitsuru actually manages to draw more blood from herself (via the Evoker) than she does from Weiss
In Jul 27th 2019, ironcommando edit the entry to following, with "Evokers don't draw blood." as edit reason.
- In the span of Weiss Vs Mitsuru, nobody lands any bloodletting hits despite both combatants being impaled at two different points of the battle.
Today, qwigly edit it back with "Someone probably should have told Torrian that, as there is very clearly a blood effect when she fires her Evoker." as edit reason.
- In the span of Weiss Vs Mitsuru, Mitsuru actually manages to draw more of her own blood than she does of Weiss's, via the Evoker..
As someone who played Persona 3, I can confirm that it doesn't draw blood. And rewatching that episode of Death Battle, it's not really look like blood either.
resolved Using ROCEJ to cover anti-LGBT? Web Original
This is in RPC Authority's description.
In fact, most of the founders and writers of the wiki are former SCP writers themselves who left the SCP Foundation for complicated reasons that are best left undiscussed, and formed the wiki in 4chan.
Consider that the "best left undiscussed" reason is SCP wiki being pro-LGBT and yearly celebrate Pride Month, is it really covered by ROCEJ?
resolved Should this be cut? Web Original
Characters.Eight Bit Book Club
Three characters, one has only a ZCE trope, another has three tropes with two being ZCE, and the last one has four with two being ZCE while Ms. Fanservice one isn't an example.
All three have a Character Alignment trope which don't belong on a character sheet, especially as ZCE.
In short, the sheet only has two good tropes (and I think they're barely passable), no character description.
Edited by Kuruniresolved Puzzling Values Dissonance addition Web Original
I found this Values Dissonance example on the YMMV page for Zero Punctuation that raised an eyebrow, mostly thanks to a sentence that was added near the end of October (highlighted in bold italics):
- He suggests that this is why he dislikes games such as Call Of Duty. The games rely on the premise that the player possesses some degree of nationalism towards the United States, and for obvious reasons, he has no such feelings. That being said, his extremely negative portrayal of America isn't that flattering to those that are American or support the country either. The fact that he lives there, married an American woman, and has a kid there in 2020 simply reinforces the incredible hypocrisy.
I'm already wary of attempts to point out alleged hypocrisies for the sake of a gotcha like what this added sentence reads like it's doing, but it also comes somewhat out of nowhere in this case, in a rather complain-y way. To say nothing of other factors that negate said accusations of hypocrisy, such as how complaining about media depictions doesn't necessarily translate to complaints about every facet of a country, or how it's not an issue to complain about a society that you're a part of. I'd like some thoughts on this before I do anything (other than swap the link at the start for an archive link, since most of the pre-revival Escapist articles seem to have gone under at some point over the past two years)
Edited by Akriloth2160resolved Kill Count and Dead Meat are separate pages Web Original
As the title says, I've noticed that The Kill Count and Dead Meat (the latter of which refers to the channel that the former series is hosted on) are separate pages, but most of the Dead Meat page and its subpages focusses on Kill Count, with hardly anything talking about the rest of the channel's content. What should we do about this (besides possibly renaming the page for Kill Count to remove the "The" if we're keeping the page, since that's not in the title of the show itself outside of James' signing on/off phrases)?
Edited by Akriloth2160resolved Bloated-if-not-questionable Cowboy Bebop At His Computer example Web Original
On the Trivia page for Jimquisition, there's a Cowboy BeBop at His Computer example that was added and serial tweaked across last November, and while I already take issue with the unwieldy length of the example, I watched the episode it's referring to, and I'm not sure it's accurate. Here's what it is:
- In "Why Emulating Nintendo Games Is Good, Probably", Jim kept equating Piracy and Emulation as one in the same throughout the video; which it is not. Piracy would be stealing a game rom to play on an emulator, whereas emulators themselves is the means to play said game. While they can be used to play pirated games, if one is prepared enough, you can just dump the games yourself (something all emulators suggest you do specifically to avoid lawsuits and copyright infringement). Jim doesn't seem to realise that emulators can also do a lot more than just play games. You can outright make homebrew games for that system, mod the game to make it look better with texture packs and custom levels, or use cheat codes to enhance the experience. None of this was mentioned by them, despite being perfectly legal activities to do, and also a draw to emulator enthusiasts. If emulators were the driving issue, Nintendo and other game companies would've attempted to sue them all years agonote and there is a reason most emulators are open source; to prove to the companies and their users that their code is not stolen from outside sources or was made with a leaked companies' data. The premise of the video is also flawed because they claim games media doesn't talk about emulation because it's a taboo subject, and goes off on a tangent about how the media relies too much on connections to get news and review copies. While the observation is mostly true, It doesn't occur to them that a press outlet featuring emulators semi-frequently will inevitably lead to the Streisand Effect; more people pirating games to try out the emulator because they heard it in an article that would otherwise not feature it (something Jim themselves is an example of; Jim went out and bought a handheld game emulator loaded with what they imply are illegitimately obtained roms because they wanted to use an emulator to protest against Nintendo's online service that they found out via a news article via Kotaku).
Except the video doesn't treat piracy and emulation as the same thing. In fact, going off of the way that Jim words themselves, the video acknowledges and understands that piracy is a mere facet of emulation more than it is the same thing. Jim's video treats it as part of the bigger issue of how Nintendo does nothing to make their service worth the money in the face of people being able to access their older games for free illegitimately, and it seems like that's the actual premise of the video more than the topic of gaming media being coy about emulation, especially since the early portion revolves around an article that's being anything but coy about it. More to the point, the video backs this distinction up further by explicitly pointing out that the Kotaku article in question isn't encouraging piracy so much as it's reporting on something that's proven to be possible on emulation software.
From what I can conclude from rewatching the video, this example seems to revolve around a lack of distinction that not only isn't visible anywhere in the video, but wouldn't have been important to the video's point even if it was. It can't just be me noticing this, right?
At the very least, the example looks like it could do with a trim and a tiny bit of grammar cleanup, if we were to keep it.
Edited by Akriloth2160resolved Found a red link regarding ex-trope moved into notes Web Original
Hello, community. I have something to put stuff here, but not all media or pages are that important to always watch on. Depending on how popular, expansive and influential the media is, if they have a page that means there is some presence or knowledge that at least a few of the tropers know. However, I find that I found a red link on a work's character page that refers to Id Superego And Ego, formerly a trope that is deleted so if it needs to be fixed, and specifically refers to three different characters having that sort of Id / Superego / Ego it could either mean two things: the Useful Notes of the same name: Id, Superego, & Ego for the notes, or the closest trope I found, or that is also happens to be Freudian Trio . Alternatively I could mark these three characters based on their specific role whether they're the logics, the emotion, or the balance. Those being The McCoy, The Spock, and The Kirk, respectively. What should I apply to the edits, which one is the most appropriate?
Edited by JustNormalMusicLoverresolved Possible agenda-driven example Web Original
Troper darkpowrjd has added a few examples to the YMMV page for Jimquisition, and while two of them have already been removed for not being YMMV tropes (one of which was a The Friend Nobody Likes example with a whiff of drama importation about it), they also added this sub bullet for Seasonal Rot that has a similar, if not worse, air about it:
- Jim seemly made this worse by consistently bring that up as the ONLY reason behind the drop in subscribers and viewership, thereby attacking those that had left for reasons completely unrelated to the transition. These include a sudden shift into being what could be seen as more militant and complaining that people call their videos getting way too political note This meaning that Jim touches on sensitive issues and has such an absolutist viewpoint about them that people can feel uncomfortable in being allowed to discuss it at all with them.. Jim also has seen a way to interject jabs at "alt-right" people and those that seem to want to counter their videos seemly all the time, especially when the jabs are shrouded in overgeneralizing the group that had the opinion they disagreed with, and what the opinion the group actually held.
Perhaps this is just me reading too deep into things, but putting "alt-right" in incredulous quotation marks in this context and putting such a label in the same category as "the group that had the opinion they disagreed with" and "those that seem to want to counter their videos" are massive red flags as far as the position the edit was made from is concerned, especially since this double bullet comes immediately after the bullet that acknowledges that the bigotry against Sterling coming out as Non-Binary was a noticeable factor in the perceived Seasonal Rot. And all of this is assuming that the "consistently bringing that up as the ONLY reason" remark is even true.
Basically, I'm suspecting that a rather odious agenda was behind this edit, but I'd like to be sure it isn't just me before I cut it.
Edited by Akriloth2160resolved Regarding conflicting external sources... Web Original
Hello. It took me a while to get my mind on about this, but I would like to politely ask question to get help.
It's about Fire Emblem on Forums - I was trying to do a little editting as can be shown here.
However, after than there is this edit, which says that the GM actually said that the game has not been completed. After a bit of reviewing, I would assume they're right, I just realize that there are two contradicting possible external sources for this.
First, the source that came from the hub page shows the game as completed, however, the actual game itself is indeed not yet marked as completed. I think while it's external source and I can't help about it right now, I would like to mention the fact that a contradiction that has confused me was indeed present.
I'm sorry for having to point this, it might seem minor but it has mislead me into typing error. Forgive me for the incorrect edit, but the troper "IcyTea" and the person who told them are actually correct, so I'll just respect and accept their edit decision for now.
So the only problem here is trying to confirm. The latter edit is more preferable, right? I'm aware that I cannot re-edit it back because that would been an edit war that can be punished. I'm just unsure, and apologizes if this case wasn't that simple. I promise that the intent is to clarify and help. Thank you for understanding.
resolved Crosswicking shared page spinoffs Web Original
I'm working on adding some more crosswicks for SMPLive, which has two spinoff servers that don't have separate pages since they're basically just SMPLive with a new gimmick. When adding an example that's specifically from one of the spinoff series, which way should I format it?
- TekkitLive: All players want to get their hands on valuable resources and aren't afraid to get their hands dirty. One of the first conflicts on the server takes place when Sneeg and Poke need oil, and decide to try and steal some from Schlatt & Co.
- SMPLive: In the "TekkitLive" spinoff server, all players want to get their hands on valuable resources and aren't afraid to get their hands dirty. One of the first conflicts on the server takes place when Sneeg and Poke need oil, and decide to try and steal some from Schlatt & Co.
resolved Problematic Wall of Text example Web Original
I originally raised this on the Wall of Text cleanup thread, but it's had no reply for two weeks, so I decided to raise it here.
On the YMMV page for Crash Thompson, there's this lengthy sub-bullet listed under Broken Base:
- Crash's tendency to put certain albums at #1 on his "Worst of" lists that others felt weren't nearly as deserving of the spot as others. Many were surprised that Doug Walker's Wall parody album was even included on the list at all considering very few people even cared about it and many saw the segment as little more then an excuse for Crash to vent about his own disillusionment with Channel Awesome (which he applied to in the past), likewise in the "Worst of 2020" list some thought Crash was stretching by calling the "Living the Dream" music video for Five Finger Death Punch as being "anti-masker", and him trying to use a select few Youtube comments as an excuse to condemn the whole band as being rather unfair, not to mention Crash's repeated insults towards the band's own fans over the years in his reviews of their albums has led some to believe that he just wanted an excuse to rant about the band again and that accusing them of causing deaths was going too far, not to mention impossible to factually prove (plus seeing blaming a band for something that a few of their fans do as rather unfair), not to mention Crash slagging the band for their views (or at least what he thought they were) and penalizing them for it by putting them at #1 came off as hugely hypocritical to some considering he put Deftones "Ohms" on his "best" list despite one of their members (guitarist Stephen Carpenter) outright revealing himself to be not only an anti-vaxxer/anti-masker but a flat-earther as well (in addition to a whole bunch of other crazy conspiracy theory nonsense), yet Crash didn't penalize their album in the same way. For what it's worth, Crash himself later admitted in one of the "Rock Coliseum" videos that he regretted going as hard on both albums as he did, admitting that even if they were bad they weren't really worth all the anger he directed at them.
Originally, I was aiming to heavily gut this example due to its reliance on weasel words and what I initially interpreted as reaching for complaining via an appeal to hypocrisy (an appeal to hypocrisy which isn't even accurate even with the later context, considering that Crash actually did speak out against Carpenter in the same "best of" video). Other than maybe removing the attempt at drawing a double standard concerning Ohms, I'm wondering how exactly this can be trimmed to be easier on the eyes and less complain-y, if not cut completely.
Edited by Akriloth2160resolved Empyrean Rings page Web Original
The page is about a pretty substantial horror series that stretches across multiple youtube channels, i was wondering why it was cut due to spam the first place.
Edited by MysteryPersonresolved parenthesizing a work page Web Original
I recently made a page for a web animation, that being Prey (Sensation Studios). Of course, Sensation Studios is intended to be in parenthesis. However, I assume an admin has to do that, because I don't think I can. If I can, how?
Hi, user Kendall has deleted a substantial amount of content on the Yogscast's YMMV page, found here. When confronted, they said that the stuff they deleted was "not opinions".